The Spoony Experiment

Final Fantasy VIII Review: Part 8

by Spoony on February 4, 2009 · 294 comments

Bite-sized version available here.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!

Welcome to the long-awaited resurrection of my review of Final Fantasy VIII: the game that has plagued my existence for years.

Production Notes

  • This will probably be the last time you’ll see the “Break Me” intro in its current form. I’d like to update it to include new moments from my latest reviews.
  • If you’re wondering about my t-shirt, it’s similar to the one worn by Matt Damon early in the movie Dogma.
  • “I AM A MAYUNN!” is a reference to Linkara’s brilliant series of videos called Atop the Fourth Wall, hosted on That Guy With The Glasses. You should definitely check him out if you haven’t already. I probably should have given him a credit at the end– an oversight for which I apologize.
  • This is the first ever use of chromakey in my videos, and I’ll be the first to admit it’s very amateurish in execution. My room is a poor place to set up a green screen, and proper lighting is nearly impossible. Hopefully soon I’ll have some more room to maneuver, maybe get myself a studio!
  • Fu Manchu was supposed to be wearing a Chinese-style wig, but unfortunately I went cheap and bought one of those wigs-in-bags things, which is always a horrible idea whenever you’re dealing with hair more than a few inches long. I don’t know why, but when I tried the wig out, it was little more than a matted, greasy lump.
  • It was deceptively hard finding good Election 2008 video. I’m still amazed I was able to find anything related to Dave.
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{ 294 comments… read them below or add one }

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Tyler March 11, 2009 at 5:41 pm

I’m pretty sure if Insano was elected after his speech a lot of people would be saying “Can he do that” and “Why are so stupid”

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Rob March 13, 2009 at 5:34 am

Damn, I really hope there’s more of these. These are awesome.

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kamina March 14, 2009 at 9:41 am

Alaxander65, you unbeliver!!! How dare you compare spoony one to avgn!!!! His review style are awesome! And if your feelings feel hurt by those insults, just stop watching and stop doing the same thing you say he does to those ff8 fan by insulting him!

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Tedd March 14, 2009 at 4:41 pm

I just figured out why those people are celebrating the Sorceress! That arched gateway looks exactly like Le Arc de Triomphe in Paris, THEY”RE FRENCH!

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broken_chaos March 15, 2009 at 1:37 am

From the comments, we’re all sadists. Your pain is our pleasure. And what a /glorious/ pleasure it is!

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Kavak March 15, 2009 at 10:47 am

“Wide-awake kawaii nightmare” Goddamn I love that description.

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Mike March 15, 2009 at 6:40 pm

SpoonyOne you are the most awesome internet person i’ve ever known, thank you for restoring my hope in humanity by continuing your reviews and please keep going with final fantasy reviews

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tommy March 18, 2009 at 8:20 pm

this is the most hilarious shit on the interwebs. keep it going. i love it

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ferdi March 19, 2009 at 6:35 am

Very funny review !

I quite agree with the fact that the plot “looks” bad, for me mainly because of stupid dialogues and poor “mise en scene” (and actually, by looking closer, it was the same with the sixth and the seventh). I think the tenth and the others that followed revealed those stupid realisations because of voices and advanced grafics.

That being said, I like the spirit, the intentions and some good ideas behind. It’s like Kubrick’s 2001 directed by one of the guys who made the harry potter movies, if you see what I mean.
For example the fact that we actually can read what Squall and some other characters are thinking adds to the character development thing a little like reading a book with descriptions or whatever. In a real movie, characters would be able to transmit that only through their dialogues or through their behaviour, but first : Square is bad at that, second : a virtual character will never replace a real actor and third : when ff8 came out, technology wasn’t good enough yet to even try rendering such difficult things.
Then, the background scenario and the design of the world itself is also good. At least it’s different from the medieval castles, knights and usual jungle, desert, tropical places we find in almost every RPGs. That one propose something different, something maybe strange sometimes but still unusual (like the weird balamb university or the blue cristal world where laguna is wandering when squal falls asleep or the Esthar city or even the chapter in space with completely upside-down screens to show the zero-g stuff or the big monolith like in 2001 etc…).

About the gameplay, I’d say I don’t really care, and for me it’s not what matters. I never tried or not even thought of drawing a hundred spells to an ennemy. Maybe sometimes I tried on boss to see if they didn’t had any GF, that’s all. And by only doing that, I still could reach the end of the game (maybe just a little more difficult when it came to the last battle). It’s easy and it’s on purpose, at least for me.

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Patmac1 March 20, 2009 at 12:42 am

I greatly enjoy your sense of humor, lol i kid you not i had been waiting for this part 8 since at least a year ago when i first ran into your utube videos. LOL PLZ FINISH THE GAME you dont even have to edit it as severely as you have in part 8 I would just love to watch you play the game and rip on it lol. Granted I understand you have a life outside of this aweful game. Just giving u my two cents and saying I love your work

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Ace March 21, 2009 at 9:28 pm

“you voted for a Guy named Doctor Insano!!!!!”

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Drake Clawfang March 26, 2009 at 9:59 pm

Oh god, this had me in tears! Hilarious! Dr Insano was the best part, and the flashback commentary was good too, and the Star Wars clip….awesome, truly awesome.

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DC March 27, 2009 at 10:18 am

I love how in the beginning of this video some asshole starts calling Spoony a fag and talks about how much he sucks balls, when he’s the one who has the screen name “MasterBahamut07.” lmao wat a fucking dolt. keep up these ffviii reviews spoony and while you’re at it, you need to pick up the intensity against ff fanboys like “MasterBahamut” roflmao.

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kristian March 27, 2009 at 1:13 pm

What is the name of the cover of the Chocobo theme that starts about a minute and a half in? Because that cover was awesome!

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Paul Rodenburg March 31, 2009 at 8:30 pm

As a Detroit Lions fan I love your joke bashing them… ohhh they suck.

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Matrim March 31, 2009 at 8:33 pm

I scanned through and didn’t see anything about this, so I’ll put it out there. The reason why Seifer went with Edea is because his “romantic dream” that he mentioned earlier in the game was to be the sorceress’ knight. You can deduce this by looking at the books Seifer ordered from the library…yeah, I know, it’s stupid. But that’s the reason. Love the reviews, though, keep ‘em coming!

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Aris April 2, 2009 at 10:24 pm

What really got me was the Sorceress’ dialogue. Oh my God, I did not remember how bad it was.
The great thing is, the audio of you reading the lines came a little bit before the words came up on the screen, so every five seconds I was thinking, “OK, he has got to be ad libbing this part, right?” Then it would come up on the screen. Seriously, what the fuck were the writers thinking?

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DamuEmran April 14, 2009 at 8:45 pm

I heard when they translated this game some of the dialog was changed like when Rinoa called squall a “Meany” or during the speech or at the end.
Dude the next part is going to be amazing. I love final fantasy VIII

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Will April 17, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Spoony, I watched the 10 videos you had of FF8 the other day, even if only 8 are about 8. That got me to playing the game again to see just WHY I liked it so much. I picked up a file near where you left off, and noticed a scene you didn’t make fun of that had me shouting WHY?!?! Its if you let Irvine make the parties on exiting Galbadia. It gets rather… odd. If you have a file/save state before it… ACTUAL DIALOGUE actually consists of stuff like “Irvy Kinnepooo! I’ll make you happy!” from Selphie. Rinoa in that acts just like… well A Whore.

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northwindbrat April 18, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Dude, your videos are awesome. LOVING the Audition reference. Anyone who can joke about that movie is alright in my book. ;)

Good luck for your Dial M For Murder thingy if you’re still doing it. I’m hoping whoever who’s supposed to be Grace Kelly is at least 1/4 as gorgeous ;)

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RobertI May 16, 2009 at 10:53 am

Someone needs to add Japanese subtitles these reviews and circulate them on image boards.

By someone I don’t mean me. I can’t write in the language.

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Vance May 30, 2009 at 11:30 pm

Dr. Insano 2012.

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Marjan June 18, 2009 at 7:27 am

Heh, playing Wanted Dead Or Alive during Irvine’s intro scene made it 10x more impressive than it actually was, AND it reminded me that I loved this song so now I’m gonna download it and listen to it on repeat on my computer ^_^

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Lucan July 3, 2009 at 3:23 pm

Wha wha wha wha wha WHAT?

HE WAS GOING TO ASSASSINATE HER WITH A FUCKING SAWN OFF SHOTGUN?

MOST ACCURATE WEAPON IN THE WORLD HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Oh, and that’s another thing: THAT MOTHERFUCKER IS HUGE! It COMPLETELY defeats ANY advantages a sawn-off would give you.

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Arik July 4, 2009 at 2:48 pm

That’s why America in real life never let’s anyone under 18 join the military. Can you imagine some terrorist demorallizing a 16 year old by saying. “You think you’re a man. BUT you’re only a boy.” Just like the sorceress demoralized Seifer who before was a bad ass kid. Thank god Final Fantasy 8 is a fantasy.

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Amayirot Akago July 14, 2009 at 2:03 pm

The Moai Head UFO combined with the X-Files music and your confused expression was sheer brilliance.

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maul93461 July 27, 2009 at 2:19 am

That’s total bullshit. You still have to draw magic quite a bit even if you refine items. And turning monsters into cards is another pain in the ass method for getting magic and items. The fact of the matter is that getting magic in this game is a pain in the ass. Spoony don’t listen to these people. I played the game all the way through once. It took me over a year to do it. The fucking game is tedious as all hell. But for some sick reason I actually enjoyed it. I must like pain I guess…………o.O

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John August 7, 2009 at 10:40 pm

Seriously, this whole series is great and I’ve been following it for awhile. But coming back and watching this episode, there are two parts that are just hilarious. First of all, your delivery on “No smartass, those are boats. Shut up.” is absolutely perfect. As is your face after that weird UFO battle.

Brilliant.

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Millie August 10, 2009 at 9:39 am

Dude… I have to give you so much credit on this review cause it was 100% damn near perfect and I just enjoy the fact that one of your goals is to destroy those damn fan boys hopes and dreams. I was actually in your second part of this review.. or third with all the comments about drawing magic they called you a noob and shit WTF im glad you filled in the gaps for them by telling them the alternatives sucked just as much. You should NOW do some reviews on FF9 and 10 those arent as bad of games like playing wise but you could do a shit load on the stories im sure and are you thinking of doing one for the MMORPG FF11?

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Fusashi Yuraka August 22, 2009 at 2:24 am

now if I am not mistaken The guy Called “Aro2220″ who was just bitching about how Spoony rolls at 1:51 spelled Fantasy wrong (Fantays)…..that just goes to show how some Idiots think that they can hate on someone else without making themselves look stupid….it just amazes me…I mean if ya don’t like the vid don’t comment,and if you see everyone and there mother has already pointed out what you were going to say then stay quiet,Know what I mean?

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Fusashi Yuraka August 23, 2009 at 1:30 am

wow cody….you just made what I said true for all to see…btw jackass you just also spelled “your” wrong (tour)…and you also made two WHOLE comments on the same point over and over again…I think that if you have only one thing to say then say it once and leave it at that,and plus cody most of us that enjoy his pain is because some of us (like me) liked the game but also hated some parts in it,Spoony one is just showing those that loved the whole game…(Like you)…that there are some parts,in the game,that would drive a sane human (unlike you) to go bat shit for a few seconds…then continue because we just have to see the ending after everything the game has put us through. Fusa out…
P.S. Me-> (>0.0)> ==|counter bash|==|>t(X.Xt) <-Cody

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td260 September 6, 2009 at 6:44 pm

i love the fact that right before he says “is this even legal” Fu man chu is playing PHOENIX WRIGHT, AN ATTORNEY GAME!!! it’s just funny.

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armass September 11, 2009 at 11:39 am

Cody seriously just give it up really. Ur starting to sound like a madman there. Spoony hates the game, I hate it, many other people hate it, SO FUCKING WHAT?! It’s not the end of the world, but to you it seems to be.

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Master Seijin September 13, 2009 at 5:40 pm

You know, if Edea is really possesed by the spirit of Ultamicia, then there’s now need for Squall and the other quiefs to be going on this gay adventure with fucking telepathic time travle and shit. No, what they really need to do is call the Ghostbusters! No sniper, just have the Boys in Grey come in and hose down Edea with mood slime and then trap Ultamicia before she can jump into another vessle and cause any real trouble. 1 simple phone call.

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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LiK September 13, 2009 at 6:42 pm

hahaha, love this stuff. thanks again for pointing out all the flaws with this horrible game.

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Richter September 17, 2009 at 12:53 am

Seriously, I’m not entirely sure which is funnier. Spoony, or the massive hate war going on in this comment board, especially how so few people take both sides of the arguement into consideration. For me, personally, the game kept my interest off and on for a few months, mostly because I hated spending so much time Drawing. Which, apparently, you barely need to do. Unfortunatly, most gamers, myself included, had no idea that you could skip over it. Unless you had a guide or two in front of you that you read to be able to play this game to the max, your first reaction would be to draw as much as you can. And why would you do that? Well, because you want to be freakin’ tough, right? And most people don’t know they can skip this because they either wont get a guide at first, (they wanna beat it legit) or they don’t want to risk getting their asses handed to them by a boss.

On top of all that, I fail to understand how people can get so worked up when someone bashes on a character they like. Look at me, I’m a HUGE fucking fan of Richter Belmont. HUGE. I will prattle on ENDLESSLY about this guy. But lots of people downplay him, diss him and just tell me flat out that he sucks compared to the other Belmonts and whatever the hell the other family is. Morris. But I don’t rage out and start spouting out profanity like I was a six year old who found the Big Book of Cussing. I’ll get mildly annoyed and debate it, but I sure as hell don’t go into a frenzy. But hey, that’s just me. Maybe I’m too calm to understand, and some people just have shorter tempers. Whatever.

The plot of the game was okay. A lot of the stuff seemed rather absurd, but I didn’t question it too much, since it IS a fantasy game. You can’t really argue against a die-hard fan about realism in it, since you can’t counter the “It’s magic” clause. You could argue about the magic itself, I suppose, like why you don’t see spells meant for fixing said problems, but that seems kinda pointless. The fact that half the cast IS annoying as hell doesn’t help the fact too much. Zell and Selphie need Ritalin, Squall needs some Prozac, and Siefer needs a swift kick to the rump. I still USED Zell, since he made me laugh, and I use Irvine, just cus he can crank out serious hurt with his bullets. And Squall, because he’s the Main Character.

The whole thing seemed kinda convoluted, despite being alright. A lot just seemed to happen at random, or was just thrown at your with little elaboration as to why it was happening. Hell, it would have been more tolerable if Squall …’d a bit less.

But I dunno, Maybe the ending made the game perfect. I never finished it, since I stopped right after jumping through the space time vortex thing. I realized I couldn’t finish making Squall’s final weapon while in there, couldn’t find a way out, and got pissed. I was heavilly underleveled, mostly due to relying on big junction spells, and didn’t feel like taking the effort to unlock all my abilities again.

But whatever. I’ve rambled far too much, and I highly doubt anyone lasted past the second paragraph. TLDR: Most people don’t think before having fan-rages.

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Richter September 17, 2009 at 12:58 am

Also! (Yay, more of my ramblings to ignore! XD) Another reason I didn’t finish was cus I was still pissed over loosing Odin to fuckin’ Siefer. Seriously, what the hell man, Odin was full of “fuck you” and Siefer just kinda went “lol, no.” And that wasn’t what pissed me off the most! What got to me was how long I SPENT getting Odin right before all that, only to lose him and get Gilgy as a replacement.

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Malus September 17, 2009 at 6:59 am

Don’t… Bash… Gilgy…

Actually when all is said and done I am surprised it took well over 250 comments on this video and many more comments on the videos before to have this flame war start up. I much like the saying “each to there own”.

I HATE this game with a deadly passion mostly for what the spoony one has said so far. I hated the draw system, I hated the money system in this game. Even after getting better ways to get magic witch dealt with items and cards by then I had screwed myself with the card system that I couldn’t stand it. I understood the weapon system…. doesn’t mean I cared for that specially since I got to far and couldn’t even make lionheart witch just urked me more. I felt like I was being dragged through the story line. Oh and Cody before you come and smite me and say I have not played through it all I have played through 99% of the game having being stuck at the stupid castle… witch is a complaint in of it self and probably the reason I gave up… oh look I screwed myself by unlocking things in the wrong pissing order…

That is my opinion. All in all I thought it was a bad game. I am entitled to that opinion. As Cody is entitled to his. The ones I hate are those who bash on the others opinion. Now I will agree that Spoony’s bashing was probably drawn out by all the bashing by people like Cody, but at least even that was funny. Cody… your just irratating x.x

Okay I have said… typed a mouth full… and am going to run with life intake if I so can help it

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Richter September 19, 2009 at 11:42 pm

I have no problem with Gilgy save when he replaces Odin. CURSE YOU GILLLLLLGGGYYYYYY!!!! *Shakes fist*

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KumaKun September 20, 2009 at 11:36 pm
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Xarlaxas September 22, 2009 at 12:24 pm

That election video was. . . beautiful beyond belief. I’m saddened though that I’m only the 2nd person to notice the Ultima 8 music used in the background, such wonderful music, makes me want to convert it to MP3 so I can listen to it on the move. . . .

Much love to the Spoony one. <3

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D.W. September 27, 2009 at 9:51 am

I voted for Insano then obama.

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Tavish Fleming October 5, 2009 at 1:11 pm

“This world is made of…love and PEACE!”

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Epic Cardboard October 10, 2009 at 6:24 pm

So, if Insano is president, who’s this Barack Obama guy I keep seeing on TV?

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